Time for a Constitutional Third Party?

http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2008/10/time-for-third-party-problems-with.html

Ludwig von Mises in 1940:

"The usual terminology of political language is stupid. What is 'left' and what is 'right'? Why should Hitler be 'right' and Stalin, his temporary friend, be 'left'? Who is 'reactionary' and who is 'progressive'? Reaction against an unwise policy is not to be condemned. And progress towards chaos is not to be commended. Nothing should find acceptance just because it is new, radical, and fashionable. 'Orthodoxy' is not an evil if the doctrine on which the 'orthodox' stand is sound. Who is anti-labor, those who want to lower labor to the Russian level, or those who want for labor the capitalistic standard of the United States? Who is 'nationalist,' those who want to bring their nation under the heel of the Nazis, or those who want to preserve its independence?"

The Old Establishment is alive and well in Nashville, TN

http://politics.nashvillepost.com/2009/11/24/davidson-county-gop-ousts-controversial-vice-chair/

"Matt Collins is no longer a member of the Davidson County GOP’s executive committee."

"Immediately following the closed door executive session hearing Collins made the following statement:

“It is unfortunate the DCRP has chosen this destructive and divisive path booting members for standing up for principle and the Constitution.

It should be noted that I have broken no bylaws (even Chairman Starnes has admitted this) and this was a personal vindictive move by some in the DCRP and the TNGOP to remove me because they did not want their fellow Republicans such as Rep Zigzag Zach Wamp, Mayor “Ban’em” Bill Haslam, Senator “Large Government” Lamar Alexander, and Senator “Bailout Bob” Corker held accountable.

Every effort was made by myself to reach a mutual understanding, however Chairman Starnes refused to work with me in the closed door session. This Soviet style purge will result in the further alienation of the grassroots activists not only in Nashville but across the country as it is becoming more and more apparent that the GOP is a Party of exclusion.”"

http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2009/11/is-beaman-automotive-of-nashville.html

http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2009/11/nashville-gop-microcosm-of-republican.html

More to come...

Newt Gingrich..a wolf in Republican's clothing...

'Former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich warned an audience at the College of the Ozarks in Missouri that the election of 2012 would see a strong third-party movement unless the GOP “shapes up,” and ceases to be the “right wing party of big government.”'

What would be so bad about a Third Party winning in 2012?

What are Politicians afraid of? Why do they put 'The Party' before 'Principles'?

They are afraid their pocketbooks and wallets will be empty. If the Two Party Paradigm is fully exposed, then they will be out of a job.

How will they fund their extravagant lifestyles without Endless Wars and money from lobbyists? The special interest groups will have no power to bribe or shape legislation because it is my hope that America will awaken and elect leaders with moral conviction. Andrew Jackson, minus the murder of Innocent American Indians, Ron Paul, and Thomas Jefferson minus the affairs and slavery would all be great Presidents/Candidates to model yourself after and hope for in 2012.

Check out the Alternative Media film 'The Real Newt Gingrich' to see how Gingrich is just a empty suited mouthpiece with the Puppet master Council of Foreign Relations pulling his strings:

Full video:
http://www.vimeo.com/6445068

Purchase a copy to burn and distribute:
http://www.shopjbs.org/index.php/videos/the-real-newt-gingrich.html

John Edwards - CFR (D)
Rudy Giuliani - CFR ®
Hillary Clinton - CFR (D)
John McCain -- CFR ®
Barack Obama -- CFR (D)
Mitt Romney -- CFR ®
Christopher Dodd -- CFR (D)
Fred Thompson -- CFR ®
Bill Richardson -- CFR (D)
Jim Gilmore -- CFR ®
Joseph Biden -- CFR (D)
Newt Gingrich -- CFR ®

"Remember the House Banking scandal, where so many congressmen wrote rubber checks on government money? Newt hopes you don't, because he bounced 22 himself, which almost cost him reelection in 1992. His vote for the secret House pay raise, and the chauffeur who drove him around Washington in a Lincoln Town Car, didn't help."

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/04/gingrich-2012-might-see-a-third-party-movement-if-the-gop-doesnt-shape-up/

http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm

Huckabee's flawed logic

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/11/04/huckabee-decries-third-party-talk.html

'A third party "ensures the election of the one you like the least in the first place," Huckabee, a likely 2012 GOP presidential primary candidate, said.'

'"Whether we like it or not, we have a two-party system," said Huckabee.'

'"Instead of conservatives breaking from the GOP to start a third party, he said, they should fight it out in primaries."'

'"Mike Huckabee, the Fox celebrity, former 2008 presidential candidate, and former Arkansas governor, today slammed conservative third-party efforts as a way to guarantee that Democrats will win. Referencing the House race for the 23rd District in New York, he said that having three candidates in the race took votes away from Doug Hoffman of the Conservative Party."'

What Huckabee fails to realize is that the existence of a Conservative Third Party confirms the failures of the Republican Party to truly represent the American People.

Who are you supposed to vote for if both the Republican and Democratic Candidate are members of the same secretive/elitist group? George W. Bush and John Kerry are members of the Skull and Bones Society. Barack Obama and John McCain are both members or have top advisers that are members in their inner circle of the CFR.

It is clear that the Democratic Party has lost it's mind...but the Republican Party is no alternative. The Republican Party and it's candidates and elected officials have continued to fail and betray Americans by not securing our borders, supporting and funding Endless War, and destroying the Constitutional Rights of Americans by supporting the Patriot Act.

The hellions that are the 'Third Party' sound like what Republicans used to represent. Limited Government, no unjustified wars, sound economic and monetary policy which would begin with Auditing and Abolishing the Federal Reserve, and the preservation and celebration of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

If America survives the attempted coup by the United Nations and Obama via the Copenhagen Treaty, the Swine Flu Apocalypse, and the impending Financial System Collapse due to the corrupt Federal Reserve, then a Third Party candidate will have a much greater chance to win the Presidency in 2012.

Here are more links and information on the Third Party, CFR, and Huckabee:

"On Sunday, a heckler confronted Huckabee at a rally in New Hampshire, shouting out repeatedly: "Why is Richard Haass, the president of the Council of Foreign Relations, your political adviser?"

According to a report in the Boston Globe, Huckabee first ignored the man and then joked, "Don't make me send Chuck back there!" – a reference to actor and WND columnist Chuck Norris, who has been campaigning with Huckabee.

Security eventually ushered the man out, and the candidate emphasized the fact the heckler had a right to speak out.

"The great thing about America is that we're not going to take him out and shoot him," Huckabee is quoted as saying. "You don't have to agree with the politicians and you can throw them out of office. But if you do like them, you can put them in office."

The candidate did not address the issue of why Haass is one of his advisers

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59622

From the CFR's website:
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13301/mike_huckabee.html :

• Huckabee has advocated prenatal care for pregnant immigrants;
• According to the Arkansas News Bureau, Huckabee has proposed a scholarship program for illegal immigrants who graduate from Arkansas high schools;
• According to the Associated Press, Huckabee criticized a 2005 federal immigration raid in Arkansas;
• Huckabee has expressed support for illegal immigrants under some conditions;
• In an interview with ABC-TV's George Stephanopoulos, Huckabee said, "We should have a process where people can pay the penalties, step up and accept responsibility for not being here legally." He added: "The objective is not to be punitive. The objective is to make things right."
• Huckabee has also expressed support for some type of barrier along the border with Mexico.

"Yet, the Washington Times quoted Ray Beck, president of NumbersUSA, as saying Huckabee "was an absolute disaster on immigration as governor."

The bottom line is the CFR would be unlikely to give favorable attention to any candidate who was truly for securing our borders by building a fence.

The evidence of Huckabee's record as governor, regardless what Gilchrist may say, is that he helped create Arkansas as a sanctuary state, serving the interest of the Arkansas corporations that wanted to exploit the cheap labor readily available from an open flow of illegal immigrants.

This, Huckabee's actual record on immigration while governor rather than his newfound border-security rhetoric, is a record the CFR globalists appear to be signaling the organization is prepared to embrace and promote with increased coverage that curiously coincides with Huckabee's recent rise in the polls"

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59202

Here's my beef with the Establishment and the Republican Party

"Democrats and Republicans are two factions of the Same Party" - Noam Chomsky


House Minority Leader John Boehner:

"We are in the middle I think of a political rebellion going on in America and this rebellion are by people who really have not been actively involved in the political process and they don’t really care whether you’re a Democrat or a Republican they want to see people who are going to stand up and protect the future for our kids and grandkids," Boehner said. "It's going to be a difficult road to walk with these relatively new entrants into the political system and work with them to show them that by and large we are the party that represents their interest."

"I'm a big believer in Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment: Never talk ill about another Republican," Boehner said.

Mr. Boehner represents exactly what is wrong with the Republican Party. I don't think a Politician has ever been more transparent or revealing in reference to the above two quotes.

1. There is a political rebellion occurring in America right now. This is evidenced by Ron Paul's continued popularity and recent increased financial support of Third Party Candidates or Constitutional Conservatives such as Rand Paul..
2. We don't care what title you place before your name. We know the Federal Government is corrupt to the core. We know our American Dollar will crash and Hyperinflation is inevitable. We know that Endless War is immoral and we are tired of sending our sons and daughters to die in a foreign country we have no business being in. We are tired of being taxed to simply have our money used to BAILOUT private companies such as AIG, GM, BANK OF AMERICA, ETC.
3. The 11th Commandment quote is what shatters my trust in the Republican Party and makes me reluctant to have faith in a Two Party System. There must be transparency and accountability in any relationship. If the Elected Officials of the Republican Party who supposedly represent Limited Government, Conservative Values, and Lower Taxes then why is it frowned upon to research and confront politicians who betray the common people they represent?!?
   

If the Republican Party would like to succeed and regain their credibility they should return to the principles espoused by our Founding Fathers and Ron Paul. Instead they support Endless Wars, encourage the destruction of American Sovereignty through their reluctance to secure our borders and increased push/legislation for NAFTA, and join the same strange/elusive/secretive groups as the Democrats such as : Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg Group.

Please see the below link...Why are popular Democrats and Republicans who publicly contradict and insult each other on the same boards and hold memberships in the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg Group?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/cfr-members.htm

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/DidYouKnow.html

Alex Jones and the Two Party Paradigm:


What is a Conservative American to do? Both the Democrat and Republican Party promise change but they continue each other policies. Ole George W. snuck in a revised Patriot Act at three in morning and since then we have seen the Federal Government grow exponentially. We have also seen our civil liberties shrink and our Constitution threatened by both parties. Obama, who is promoted as a Savior by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc., promised change and hope but continued to approve unmanned drone bombings in Pakistan killing innocent human beings and destroying villages and homes, continued the Wars he said he would end, and continued Bush's declaration of War on the American Middle Class by increasing TARP funding and more bailouts for all of his campaign contributors.

If you believe in the Constitution and a sense of moral decency you must vote for principle not party. I search for Objective Truth in all aspects of history, politics, religion, and fiscal policy. This has lead me to Ron Paul and his Campaign for Liberty. I am not setting him up as a Savior. He is a normal fallible man like you and I. Yet, he is the exception in Washington. Watch any of his Youtube videos or read his books. He has no secretive agenda. He does not belong to or support the United Nations, Council on Foreign Relations, or the Trilateral Commission.

What is so 'fringe' or 'radical' about Constitutional Rights, sound money backed up by a gold standard, and speaking the truth to your constituents and the citizens who elected you?!?

J. Fuller
TNSONSOFLIBERTY.BLOGPSPOT.COM
(I am not a Democrat..Obama, Clinton, and Gore have done a great job destroying the credibility of the Democratic Party...If labels are needed, then I consider myself a Conservative Libertarian, Ron Paul Republican, or a Constitutional Conservative)

Ron Paul's "What if.." Speech:


Here are some old posts with more information on Two Party Corruption, the CFR, and Republicans failing to stand for conservative values and Constitutional Principles:

http://tnsonsofliberty.blogspot.com/2009/10/council-on-foreign-relations-tennessee.html

http://tnsonsofliberty.blogspot.com/2009/10/someone-in-davidson-co-republican-party.html

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091101/NEWS0206/911010336/1009/NEWS02

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2376145/posts

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/1109/Boehner_political_rebellion_felled_GOPer_in_NY23.html?showall

The Attack on Ron Paul

http://thisnovember5th.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/they-are-excluding-and-smearing-ron-paul-please-read/

The above link is a detailed article with links explaining the passive aggressive nature of Mass Media towards Ron Paul. The Republican Party keeps him at arms length, Glenn Beck has insulted him in the past calling him and his followers 'Domestic Terrorists', and Fox News and Hannity censored him and discredited him during the 2008 debates.

Yet, Ron Paul is the most 'conservative' or 'Old School Republican' of all candidates. He is against Endless War, against abortion, against the Income Tax, against a bloated/growing Federal Govt., against American Imperialism, against the Federal Reserve and Fiat Money.

He is for the Constitution and protecting/preserving the civil liberties of all Americans, sound economic policy, a currency based on a gold standard, and basic common sense. His stance against the United Nations and against unjustified/undeclared Wars without Congressional approval should be the moral standard for all Americans who claim to be followers of Jesus Christ. Contrary to popular belief, Ron Paul is not an Isolationist. He simply believes the same
things our founding fathers did:

President Thomas Jefferson extended Washington's ideas in his March 4, 1801 inaugural address:

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none."

President James Monroe (1823):

"In the wars of the European powers, in matters relating to themselves, we have never taken part, nor does it comport with our policy, so to do. It is only when our rights are invaded, or seriously menaced that we resent injuries, or make preparations for our defense."

When did it become a trend in Conservative Circles to support Endless War, invade other countries and instill our framework of Government, and leave military personal and infrastructure in foreign countries?

Why is it frowned upon to question and confront members of either party about their voting records and secret/strange organization memberships?

Both Parties are Corrupt...

"A blogger at albatross.org correctly stated in 1994, “The problem in America isn’t that the Republican party has sold its soul to corporate wealth, Christian fundamentalism and plutarchs. The problem with America is that Democrats have, too. The problem with America is that the Republicans and the Democrats are units of the same organization, an organization that has consolidated its control over the American political process to the exclusion of all others.” (http://albatross.org/journal/archives/000789.html)"

"Noam Chomsky says, “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum – even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there’s free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.” In short, we are taught to think in terms of “A and B”. Therefore, if “C” is presented, we either discount it as impossible or our peers remind us that only “A and B” are possible to keep us in line."



"Democrats and Republicans are two factions of the Same Party" - Noam Chomsky

545 people

545 vs. 300,000,000 (Republicans & Democrats Alike - No One Is Blameless)

EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST HAS WRITTEN IN THIS MESSAGE. READ IT AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT POLITICAL DEBACLE.

Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.



545 PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred Senators, 435 Congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court Justices -- 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party. What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.

Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red ..

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ.

If they do not receive Social Security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power..

Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses, the voting American public.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!


Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

-I did not write this..this a forwarded email I received...